![]() I wrote the scene at the door so I assumed it was going to be a door and the two of them and the kid and that was it. I’d written that scene where Gordon is going out trick-or-treating and he’s talking to his wife and you know they’re standing in the hallway. You know, “move the camera closer, Batman was grim, move it in closer again so it’s just his eyes and then pull back so we see the whole thing,” or something like that.īatman Comics: Best Halloween Specials to Read By John SaavedraĪnd there’s things that Tim does on his own that I’m always amazed by. ![]() But that’s partly because of all that time we had spent talking, so by the time he got to actually having to write a script, he knew what to put in better and what to leave out. Tim Sale: When Jeph says “full script,” it’s not like an Alan Moore script or something like that. It’s what a lot of people would call “full script.” But it’s always with the ideas that Tim had, and his right to be able to say, “this might work better if we do this” or “I don’t need this panel.” Some of the dialogue is in the main script, and then I would redo it when I got the final pages from Tim. So I started writing them the way that I wrote movies and television, which was a lot of detail. That eventually got to a place where it just took so long for us to do anything that I had to start writing scripts. I need a physical script.” So I would literally go back and write a script…and I would just describe what Tim had done, then I would put in the dialogue that I put in. So could you move the camera in closer?” And Tim’s response would be like, “there’s no camera, you’re asking me to redraw the page?” And I would go, yeah, “I guess I’m asking you to redraw the page.”Īrchie Goodwin was our editor, and he said, “Jeph, I have to pay you, so you need to turn in the script.” And I went “you have the script, it’s the book.” “No, it doesn’t work like that. I just sort of thought we’d be a little more in close. Then I would call him and I would go, “yeah, this is good. So I would get them three or four days after he was done with them. Then he would send me the pages in the mail. Tim would be taking notes, and I’m writing it on a yellow pad as we’re talking. ![]() I would describe it in cinematic terms: the camera is about a a mid-close up…and, you know, maybe there’ll be three horizontal panels. So we would get on the phone and literally talk for hours about what would happen in a scene. And there’s some real questions as to how much storytelling Jack was doing all by himself.īut when our collaboration started, lo these many years ago, Tim and I didn’t have the internet or anything, we didn’t have a fax machine. I had always heard these stories about how Stan Lee would talk to Jack Kirby and then Jack would sort of lay the story out, and then Stan would come in and put in dialogue or give him some ideas. When we started, I didn’t know how to write a comic book. Jeph Loeb: That goes all the way back to 89. How has your creative process changed since then? We spoke with them both on the occasion of The Long Halloween Special’s release.ĭen of Geek: It’s been almost 30 years since you two first collaborated on your first Batman story. The Long Halloween Special picks up threads from those stories, moving the calendar forward only slightly (it’s still early in the career of Batman and Robin) to give us another look at the gritty, street-level crime stories that have become a hallmark of the Loeb and Sale creative team. That was followed by Batman: Dark Victory, a sprawling Two-Face origin story that also brought Dick Grayson into the story, as well as Catwoman: When in Rome, which revealed new details about Selina Kyle. Gotham City is a familiar playground for Loeb and Sale, having kicked off their tales of Batman’s formative years with a trio of Halloween-themed specials in Legends of the Dark Knight, before the “real-time” month to month holiday-themed Batman: The Long Halloween. Out now from DC Comics, Batman: The Long Halloween Special is the next chapter in Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale’s exploration of the early days of the Dark Knight and his villains, following. One of the most famous stories in Batman history, Batman: The Long Halloween has just added a new chapter.
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